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too late for commercial hybrid?
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Dale
2013-12-06 04:09:24 UTC
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when I worked at Kodak I was an Imaging Systems Engineer on hybrid
analog/digital commercial systems like film recorders and photographic
paper writers

I recognized the program they had to develop a photoshop like program
didn't really address the whole workflow of commercial labs and focus
groups confirmed that, I took the job as their systems person but backed
out at the last minute since I foresaw the funding was going away,
stupid career decision at the time I knew the story was bad beforehand
due to the focus groups issues with workflow, course I got real stupid a
lot of times back then

I was using early versions of ICC color management, http://www.color.org
, it worked for the paper real well, but due to the print appearance
rendering intent it did not reach the dynamic range and measuring
techniques of transparent and translucent materials

also it was difficult to develop targets and systems for negative
applications based on the definition of a negative as an intent for a
print with the ICC approach at the time, probably should have stuck with
the PhotoCD scene intent for negatives which worked well for negative
scanning

now it looks like ICC is mature enough to support a variety of
mathematical and appearance contexts and it might work

Kodak had an internal system called PLUS that did matrices and smaller
look up tables than ICC at the time, I think this is implement in their
at least their own motion picture workstations at their cinesite, maybe
they are using the newer ICC constructs now, I see they have licensed
some technology to IMAX

perhaps there is still some commercial market, their current largest
investment to due a hybrid workstation, or maybe they could just start
licensing the PLUS technology, could also expand motion picture
workstations this way to other smaller cinesite investors and related
technology firms

they also had software for internegative balancing, totally analogy,,
that could be developed for motion picture or licensing based on PLUS
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Dale
Dale
2013-12-06 04:47:48 UTC
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Post by Dale
I recognized the program they had to develop a photoshop like program
didn't really address the whole workflow of commercial labs and focus
groups confirmed that, I took the job as their systems person but backed
out at the last minute since I foresaw the funding was going away,
stupid career decision at the time I knew the story was bad beforehand
due to the focus groups issues with workflow, course I got real stupid a
lot of times back then
the workflow issues were what to do with color science in vector based
programs, page layout programs, RIPs, etc.

bitmap editing alone wasn't enough, didn't really address bitmap
creation programs either like Corel Painter
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Dale
wtrplnet
2013-12-07 06:19:15 UTC
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Post by Dale
Post by Dale
I recognized the program they had to develop a photoshop like program
didn't really address the whole workflow of commercial labs and focus
groups confirmed that, I took the job as their systems person but backed
out at the last minute since I foresaw the funding was going away,
stupid career decision at the time I knew the story was bad beforehand
due to the focus groups issues with workflow, course I got real stupid a
lot of times back then
the workflow issues were what to do with color science in vector based
programs, page layout programs, RIPs, etc.
bitmap editing alone wasn't enough, didn't really address bitmap
creation programs either like Corel Painter
I wish I could really understand what you're talking about, but it's
clear your employer didn't understand what you had to offer. Kodak
failed, for many reasons. Lots of us who depended on Kodak for many
things and many reasons hate that it failed.
Dale
2013-12-11 02:37:57 UTC
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Kodak failed, for many reasons. Lots of us who depended on Kodak for
many things and many reasons hate that it failed.
couldn't you find the same resources from:

Agfa
Ilford
Fuji
Konica
Sony
etc.

?
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Dale
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